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"We must learn to let go, to give up, to make room for the things we have prayed for and desired." -Charles Fillmore

*amused look* Yes, Universe, I get the point!

*continues to work on being less of a control freak*

Date: 2004-03-15 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carocrow.livejournal.com
That's a good quote for me today, thanks :-)

insights

Date: 2004-03-15 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
Seems to really fit as the "Moral to this story" from my weekend.

What are you looking for, and what do you need to let go of to get it?

That's interesting...

Date: 2004-03-15 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avivasedai.livejournal.com
A while ago I wrote myself: What do you want and what are you willing to *do* to get it? I haven't yet considered it a process involving giving up, letting go... wonder how that would change things...

Re: That's interesting...

Date: 2004-03-15 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
I think that at times a sense of "letting go" may also just be "changing needs", or "sustaining self" ...

an example for me is that I want to spend more time hiking and camping.
.. but I would have to let go of the Ren Faire. Right now that owns
me and my summers. As of yet I am not willing to let that go.

But the biggest thing that I have wrestled with was "what was I willing to do (and let go of) for love?" Which cycled back to the question, "If
I had to give up parts of what I am, and what I love to do, is *that*
worth it for love?" And would someone who loved me for *me* really want me to do that?
I am starting to work out some of this for myself ...

I am guessing from your lj-username you are a Wheel of Time fan?
I just finished reading book 10 =-]

Date: 2004-03-16 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Sometimes it's what you have to do. Sometimes it's what you have to _stop_ doing. Sometimes, it's what you have to let go of before it can enter your life.

The trick is in knowing when to do what, and being _able_ to.

Date: 2004-03-16 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
What are you looking for, and what do you need to let go of to get it?

The ability to do things that require letting go - trancework, for example.

The comfort that comes with not trying to control everything around me (something I've already come a long way with. It's amazing how much easier life is when you let things go to where they best work, rather than where you or someone else thinke they 'should' be.).

Letting go of fears. Another thing I've worked on for a long time - my fears should not control my actions. At most, they can guide them. At that point, they because cautions, and not fears.

There is probably more.

Fear

Date: 2004-03-16 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
what is trancework? Is it different from meditation?

I have found it VERY hard to get into meditation, my mind wants to latch on to something and work on it.

Do you have dreams that you associate with not being in control?
I dream about being in a car, and the brakes don't work, or I can't
see where the car is going. I KNOW that I will crash it unless I gain
control of it and the situation, but something ALWAYS gets the better
of me. Whe I have these dreams (and remember them) I realize something
in real life has me REALLY stressed about control. From there I try to
work out what I can and can't do about the situation.

I have spent a lot of time in the same situation with fear: it's been a long struggle for me to learn to see that I was being lived by it, and try to change it. It's still not easy, but I certainly have come a long, long way ...

I hope that you can acheive your goals

Date: 2004-09-27 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
what is trancework? Is it different from meditation?

Yes. Medidation is focusing inward, and trying to find quiet in one's self.

Trancework is journeying outward, without one's body.

Or so I differentiate the two.

Do you have dreams that you associate with not being in control?

Yes, but they never get to a point where the control is _gone_, just going. Which is interesting.

Date: 2004-09-27 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
Trancework sounds like the astral traveling that a friend of mine does,
and I have done on occasion, but not with much control (not like she has!).
It has definitely been a while since I tried that stuff. I realize I stopped trying to go OUT when I started Kundalini Yoga, where I focused IN on my breath and energy. I should take some time to try again.

Yes, but they never get to a point where the control is _gone_, just going. Which is interesting.
The dreams could be warnings that it's not too late, or a frustration that you KNOW you could control things, even when the Universe is taking that fro m you. I have never lost total control in the dreams, but enough to scare me, and have that feeling remain with me after I awaken.

Oh- and Happy Birthday, BTW. =-]

Date: 2004-09-27 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Yes, similar, although it's also possible to get into a trance and not actually go anywhere. I just tend to travel when trancing.

So I suppose I wasn't being clear enough. Trance is, I guess, the state I get to where I _could_ travel, and I'm in a slightly different mental state, and slightly less directly attached to my body. It also involves some amount of distance from everything else, whether or not I am tranced in a state where I can walk around or not.

And, thank you. :)

Date: 2004-09-27 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
Ok, I see what you mean; I may have been in that state at times (although never by choice, assuming that you can just slip into this state when resting) ...

thank you for taking a little time to respond.

I also added you to my friends list (again); I know that I don't really come off as interesting on line, but I do find you and your posts interesting and insightful =-]

Date: 2004-03-15 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingwolfgrrl.livejournal.com
I'm always torn between being amused and annoyed when my calendars talk to me.
Same goes for fortune cookies.
*nodnod*

Date: 2004-03-16 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
*grins* Yes, indeed.

It's like, 'yes, I get the point! Enough already!'. But I suppose it's better to be talked to than beaten upside the head with some point or another. ;)

Date: 2004-03-16 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingwolfgrrl.livejournal.com
A friend of a friend once cheerfully described the process like this: "A few months ago, the universe said, 'Here's a cookie and some nifty tools. Go ahead and change your life.' This week, it said, 'No, really, CHANGE IT!'"

I try to avoid that last bit ;)

Date: 2004-03-16 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Got rid of the apparent double-post, BTW.

I really like your friend's description. Can I make it into a post all its own?

Re: Letting go

Date: 2004-03-16 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com
There've been many times that I've had difficulty letting go.
Sometimes it seems that I fought so hard to get what I've currently got, how could I possible let go of it?
That sort of like trying to climb a ladder and not wanting to step up to the next rung because it was difficult to get there...

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