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"We must learn to let go, to give up, to make room for the things we have prayed for and desired." -Charles Fillmore

*amused look* Yes, Universe, I get the point!

*continues to work on being less of a control freak*

Date: 2004-03-16 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
What are you looking for, and what do you need to let go of to get it?

The ability to do things that require letting go - trancework, for example.

The comfort that comes with not trying to control everything around me (something I've already come a long way with. It's amazing how much easier life is when you let things go to where they best work, rather than where you or someone else thinke they 'should' be.).

Letting go of fears. Another thing I've worked on for a long time - my fears should not control my actions. At most, they can guide them. At that point, they because cautions, and not fears.

There is probably more.

Fear

Date: 2004-03-16 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
what is trancework? Is it different from meditation?

I have found it VERY hard to get into meditation, my mind wants to latch on to something and work on it.

Do you have dreams that you associate with not being in control?
I dream about being in a car, and the brakes don't work, or I can't
see where the car is going. I KNOW that I will crash it unless I gain
control of it and the situation, but something ALWAYS gets the better
of me. Whe I have these dreams (and remember them) I realize something
in real life has me REALLY stressed about control. From there I try to
work out what I can and can't do about the situation.

I have spent a lot of time in the same situation with fear: it's been a long struggle for me to learn to see that I was being lived by it, and try to change it. It's still not easy, but I certainly have come a long, long way ...

I hope that you can acheive your goals

Date: 2004-09-27 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
what is trancework? Is it different from meditation?

Yes. Medidation is focusing inward, and trying to find quiet in one's self.

Trancework is journeying outward, without one's body.

Or so I differentiate the two.

Do you have dreams that you associate with not being in control?

Yes, but they never get to a point where the control is _gone_, just going. Which is interesting.

Date: 2004-09-27 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
Trancework sounds like the astral traveling that a friend of mine does,
and I have done on occasion, but not with much control (not like she has!).
It has definitely been a while since I tried that stuff. I realize I stopped trying to go OUT when I started Kundalini Yoga, where I focused IN on my breath and energy. I should take some time to try again.

Yes, but they never get to a point where the control is _gone_, just going. Which is interesting.
The dreams could be warnings that it's not too late, or a frustration that you KNOW you could control things, even when the Universe is taking that fro m you. I have never lost total control in the dreams, but enough to scare me, and have that feeling remain with me after I awaken.

Oh- and Happy Birthday, BTW. =-]

Date: 2004-09-27 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Yes, similar, although it's also possible to get into a trance and not actually go anywhere. I just tend to travel when trancing.

So I suppose I wasn't being clear enough. Trance is, I guess, the state I get to where I _could_ travel, and I'm in a slightly different mental state, and slightly less directly attached to my body. It also involves some amount of distance from everything else, whether or not I am tranced in a state where I can walk around or not.

And, thank you. :)

Date: 2004-09-27 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linus52.livejournal.com
Ok, I see what you mean; I may have been in that state at times (although never by choice, assuming that you can just slip into this state when resting) ...

thank you for taking a little time to respond.

I also added you to my friends list (again); I know that I don't really come off as interesting on line, but I do find you and your posts interesting and insightful =-]

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