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Sep. 8th, 2008 08:44 pm
wispfox: (Default)
[personal profile] wispfox
silence in the library & forest of the dead?
_creeped the fuck out, now_

Date: 2008-09-09 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
And to think, the guy who wrote those is going to be in charge of Dr. Who soon. (I can hardly wait).

Date: 2008-09-09 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Well, those have made it be that I can no longer watch it, so I guess at least I had warning (previous creepy episodes resolved that which made it creepy in ways that meant they _stopped_). *wry*

Date: 2008-09-09 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
Ah. I'm sorry to hear that. I personally am rather a fan of Steven Moffat's style - he also did The Girl in the Fireplace, Blink (The angels have the blue box!), and The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances (which was also creepy, but it introduced Jack Harkness!)

He also created/wrote/produced Coupling, which is just about the first sitcom I ever actually liked, and a few other random cool things.

Moffat will be taking over from Russel T Davies as head writer/executive producer in 2010.

May I ask what about this that made it creepy did not resolve?

Date: 2008-09-09 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Girl in the fireplace did not, oddly, creep me out. The others did.

Also, I hate Coupling, because I dislike intentionally emotionally uncomfortable situations in TV. There's enough of those in reality for me. :)

It did not resolve because, unlike in empty child and blink, the creepy things were not neutralized. The child got resolved and fixed. The angels got stuck staring at each other. The damn darkness things just have a result of 'run', which is no solution at all.

Date: 2008-09-09 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
Ah, but that makes it a plot arc! They will be building from it, and it's a connector, not an unfinished loose thread. Like the random appearances of Rose throughout the season.

As far as Coupling, I actually severely dislike those situations, too, and can't stand run of the mill sitcoms (or even romantic comedies). Coupling overcame that objection entirely by means of sufficient quirk-level of characters, and good writing. The only other relationship sitcom that has measured up for me thus far has been How I Met Your Mother.

Date: 2008-09-09 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
plot arc: indeed! And the Rose aspect of it is just fascinating. Unfortunately, the way my brain works, creepy unresolved is problematic for me. *shrug*

Date: 2008-09-09 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
It is every bit as resolved as any other season finale thus far.

Date: 2008-09-09 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
oops, this was supposed to hang later in the thread

Date: 2008-09-09 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Re Captain Jack: the problem is that the creepy episodes _do_ tend to have a lot of plot. So I can't just skip them. Unfortunately.

Date: 2008-09-09 02:13 pm (UTC)
laurion: (Default)
From: [personal profile] laurion
Coupling is _indeed_ fabulous. Coupling is what Friends wants to be when it grows up. Wispfox, if you would like to borrow it, I will gladly push it on you.

Never, ever, watch the (appropriately) aborted American version. American actors somehow lack the subtle timing and delivery that the show requires.

Date: 2008-09-09 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
Seconded. Although I do understand the reluctance, and I'd be the last person to do the "try it, you'll like it" approach. All I can say is that I don't hate it, myself (although I only watched it until the point that Jeff got replaced, and haven't gone to the trouble of tracking down the later seasons because what's the point without him.)

And agreed about the US atrocity. (It appears that Moffat has cloned the series in Greece last year. I am vaguely curious how that went.)

Date: 2008-09-09 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
I have actually seen the original - non-American - version of Coupling. That is what I based my intense dislike on. :)

Date: 2008-09-09 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starandrea.livejournal.com
::turns on five thousand SO BRIGHT lights for you::

::...AND GLOWS::

Gah! I feel your pain o.O

Date: 2008-09-09 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Yeah, sleeping last night was... interesting.

Date: 2008-09-09 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yulecat.livejournal.com
But hey, the Stig from Top Gear makes an appearance:

Image

Date: 2008-09-09 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gandalfgreyhame.livejournal.com
Doctor Who does creepy very, very well.

Date: 2008-09-09 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
But previous ones were done so that the creepy factor was resolved by the end. In this case, it was not, and thus I am no longer able to watch any more new Doctor Who.

Date: 2008-09-09 02:11 pm (UTC)
laurion: (Default)
From: [personal profile] laurion
The show is supposed to do that. Generations of Brits remember growing up and watching the show from _behind_ the couch, because it could creep them out so much.

I love it.

Date: 2008-09-09 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
It's not the during the show creepy that gets to me so much, it's the fact that it sticks in my head and makes me have nightmares and fail to sleep and have it periodically come back to haunt me later that bothers me.

*shrug*

Date: 2008-09-09 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
If you do decide to continue to watch it, perhaps ensure to have the rest of the season on hand before going on, and marathon through them until the season end?

Date: 2008-09-09 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
I do actually have the entire season. Are you saying that it _does_ get resolved in this season?

Knowing that would be enough to make me not just stop here.

Date: 2008-09-09 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
I replied to the wrong subthread, I guess. Yes, it'll get as resolved by the season finale as any season thus far has been. The darkness will not be left hanging.

Date: 2008-09-09 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Huh. Alright, I'll tough it out through the season finale. :)

We'll see if I decide it's still too creepy for me to continue watching after that point (delayed resolution, as I'm unlikely to watch all of the remaining ones at once, may mean that it is).

Good to know!

Date: 2008-09-09 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leiacat.livejournal.com
I actually managed to marathon the last 3-4 episodes in one night. Which would have been fine, except that I unwisely started this around 10pm, but I felt grossly disinclined to stop after 3rd-to-last, and then the last two are a two-parter.

Date: 2008-10-07 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kemsit.livejournal.com
I hate hate hate "Blink" - it really creeped me out. Yeah, it got resolved, but it's still really creepy.

I've learned not to watch Dr. Who right before bedtime, just as there are other shows I don't take a chance on right before bedtime. Sometimes I have to watch them while it's still light outside, even.

And I loved Coupling, but that doesn't mean that everyone will love it, especially if they've already watched it and know their tastes.

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