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I kinda want to learn sign language. I already know most of the alphabet (and numbers 1-10), because my mom knew it. And I suspect strongly that when I get nonverbal, I would probably still be able to sign.

But I'm nervous about it, because I tend to be bad with languages. Also because I don't think most of the people I know know it, so I'd have no one to practice with.

So I am indecisive... and yet curious!
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Date: 2005-09-13 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laura47.livejournal.com
i took sign language! it is awesome! take it!

Date: 2005-09-13 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mactavish.livejournal.com
You're in a city, so there are deaf people.

My favorite way to learn ASL is by immersion.

I'll bet there are good classes in Boston.

Almost all deaf people I've met are fine with people hanging out on the fringes of their social functions (though it can feel like being the ultimate third wheel) to practice ASL.

Try [livejournal.com profile] deaf? Folks there are friendly, you can ask questions along those lines.

(I sign reasonably well, but rustily. I used to teach deaf kids, but my arthritis has affected my practice.)

Date: 2005-09-13 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Where did you take it?

Date: 2005-09-13 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytabitha.livejournal.com
I'd learn with you.

Date: 2005-09-13 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
You know, or could easily be introduced to, a good half-dozen or so. Try the classes at CCAE (http://www.ccae.org/catalog/courses/course_details.php?id=523460) or Brookline Adult Ed (http://www.brooklineadulted.org/bin/catalog/bldCatalogPage.pl?File=LanguageArts.txt&Key=35). We ([livejournal.com profile] dilletante, [livejournal.com profile] fennel, and myself) have fallen off the wagon, recently, but would like to get back on. Playing "Once Upon A Time" was fun. :)

Date: 2005-09-13 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corivax.livejournal.com
Learning sign language uses very different parts of the brain than learning a vocal language, so "I tend to be bad with languages" may not even apply! Go for it!

Date: 2005-09-13 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedi-diplomat.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] starandrea knows sign language. Not sure how close you are to her. Tho I could safely say, closer than I am to her. ;) You know, I always think that knowing other languages is a good thing, but then I'm much more of a visual learner and good with languages so that kinda colors my perspective.

Date: 2005-09-13 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Ooooh. Yay! I shall have to investigate more in depth, then, because learning _with_ someone would help.

Date: 2005-09-13 12:40 am (UTC)
conuly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] conuly
Just to interject, there's no such language as "sign language". That's like saying "I want to learn Spoken Language". Each sign language is a distinct entity - you want to learn ASL, or CSL, or BSL, or whatever.

[livejournal.com profile] deaf isn't a bad idea, they should be able to point you in the direction of some good online resources - and most communities have classes in ASL (at least, in the US they do!) that you could take.

Date: 2005-09-13 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Locationwise, not terribly close to her. Unfortunately. But yes, I know she knows it. :)

Date: 2005-09-13 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
True. I want to learn ASL. :) (mostly because that's what I already know a little bit of)

Date: 2005-09-13 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytabitha.livejournal.com
So to be correct, she should've said "I want to learn a signed language".

Date: 2005-09-13 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Learning sign language uses very different parts of the brain than learning a vocal language

Which might be why I think I would still be able to sign, even if I couldn't speak!

Shall investigate. :)

Date: 2005-09-13 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Hmm! Ok, I'm pleased that you have suggestions for places to go. :)

And... does "would like to get back on" mean you're interested _now_? Or no?

Date: 2005-09-13 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
You're in a city, so there are deaf people.

Yessss... but my social energy levels are low. So while your suggestion of hanging out on the fringes of their social functions makes excellent sense, I am unlikely to actually _do_ it.

As for [livejournal.com profile] deaf, thanks for the pointer! Since, yes, if nothing else, they might know where I could go to learn!

Date: 2005-09-13 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
Northeastern University is where I took ASL. And it's also a big center for Deaf culture. There's a weekly Deaf Lunch, which is attended by ASL students, Deaf students and faculty, Deaf people who live in the area, and random people who want to practice their ASL.

My ASL level is such that, if I were dropped into a city where everyone was Deaf and spoke ASL, I could probably just about barely get by, if people were patient and helped me out. Which is actually better than any other language I know.

Date: 2005-09-13 01:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] conuly
Well, in general, yeah, except that she had a specific language in mind (ASL), which is what she should've said. It's easier to type three letters anyway.

Date: 2005-09-13 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regyt.livejournal.com
So would I. I used to know the alphabet, and I still remember how to sign words like turtle, cookie, orgasm, horde, dead, resurrected, and frog.

Trying again, logged-in styyyle.

Date: 2005-09-13 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladytabitha.livejournal.com
*blinkety blink blink*

Welp, at least you remembered the useful ones.  I remember the alphabet, hungry, thirsty, I am, you are, and why?.

So:

Horde resurrected turtle frog!
...why?
I am hungry!  Orgasm cookie!!
I am thirsty... dead frog?
OK!
OK!

Date: 2005-09-13 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keyne.livejournal.com
So is Trivial Pursuit! (hint, hint)

Date: 2005-09-13 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keyne.livejournal.com
Certainly this was [livejournal.com profile] topaz_munro's experience -- he tends to be not-great with spoken/written languages (of which he's studied several), which are much easier for me. But when we studied ASL he had a definite advantage, because of a background in acting/mime. (I'm okay at remembering handshapes, not so great at facial expressions!)

Survey says...give it a try.

Date: 2005-09-13 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jedi-diplomat.livejournal.com
Ok, I'm not being terribly clever today I guess. The point, before I got sidetracked, was that if she was close you could practice with her, but since you're not close...uh, nevermind.

Date: 2005-09-13 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
True! And in answer to [livejournal.com profile] wispfox's question, I'm not up for taking a class right now, but if you take one and enjoy it enough to want to play silly sign games, then I'm definitely up for *that*.

Date: 2005-09-13 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bernmarx.livejournal.com
Odd this topic should come up now. I'm watching "Messiah" on BBC America, and there's a significant amount of subtitled dialogue between the main character and his deaf SO. Assuming it's accurate, BSL seems much easier (to me, at least) than ASL -- I've managed to pick up a few snippets here and there.

Date: 2005-09-13 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okoshun.livejournal.com
I took sign language at a local college many years ago and loved it. I don't remember much of it, but I had a great time. I'm *horrible* with languages, but it's so expressive and interesting the way sentences are formed.
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