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[wispfox]

There were a couple things that popped into my head while preparing for sleep, and they told me to post them.

I do not like discussions where effectively what is being said is 'you should think this because' or 'you think this and'. I much prefer 'I think this, and this is why".

Possibly related, I don't like discussions in which one person has to be right. It's why I avoid political, religious, and similar types of discussions. They do _not_ make me happy, because in my mind there _is_ no 'right'.

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[ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com]

...but I once got into huge trouble with a couple of folks on alt.polyamory for saying I meant 'I think' when I wrote it, was told I meant 'you ought to think' and so on (untrue), when I wrote 'I think'. And me not being a member of their culture even.

Not simple.

And do I think that whilst there is no 'right', there is often 'less wrong', but never mind: I shall not engage in non-consensual political discussion with you!

[wispfox.livejournal.com]

Not simple.

Not at all. But those words were in my head and wanted to be said.

I _think_ it's because being told that I should think something, or that I _do_ think something, especially if by someone I don't know, is the fastest way to make me not _want_ to know them. :)

And do I think that whilst there is no 'right', there is often 'less wrong', but never mind: I shall not engage in non-consensual political discussion with you!

True. I agree with that, but the problem is that, as with many things, people's idea of what _is_ 'less wrong' varies. Sometimes wildly.

[ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com]

Not at all. But those words were in my head and wanted to be said.

Which is a perfectly good thing. What happened to me is probably a strategy of Disappointed Recruiters that I haven't met before :-)

I was terribly upset, instead of dismissive (within myself), probably a Mistake. it's easy to see others may well be, too. After all, it's ferociously insulting, however it's meant.

I _think_ it's because being told that I should think something, or that I _do_ think something, especially if by someone I don't know, is the fastest way to make me not _want_ to know them. :)

*I* think that's a healthy reaction!

True. I agree with that, but the problem is that, as with many things, people's idea of what _is_ 'less wrong' varies. Sometimes wildly.

Indeed, as could be expected. Oftimes, though, there is recourse to Actual Evidence in the Material World, or Logic :-),
a situation where folks' failure of belief is their problem!

I give the benefit of the doubt to one of the individuals who mind-read me, but not the other. My opinion of zir sank, though. As an alt.polyite, zie should know better!

[wispfox.livejournal.com]

Disappointed Recruiters

*blinks* *is confused* People were attempting recruitement, I take it?

it's ferociously insulting, however it's meant

Yes. It is. Absolutely, it is.

*I* think that's a healthy reaction!

Oh, ditto. But one it took me a while to get to and stay in without feeling like it was somehow not giving people enough chances. *shakes head* I was _way_ too forgiving of others (and not nearly enough of myself). I'm much better than I was, now. :)

As an alt.polyite, zie should know better!

'Should', yes. But hardly a safe assumption, alt.polyites being human, too. :)

[ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com]

Disappointed Recruiters Oh, I would join in a chorus on some newsgroup. Strange reactions ensued. It could be utterly wrong-headed of me to attribute the mind-reading to this, but I somehow doubt it.

I give people not from downunder who only see me (and others) from downunder in text a good bit of leeway. It has been interesting to get their take on this.