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Huh. I appear to be a conversational addict.

I'm all out of sorts today because I want to be having interesting conversations with people, and not be at work.

LJ is ok for that, but because I try to keep my friends list at least somewhat sane in length, I'm caught up.

My email hasn't been terribly good for conversations for months, but I still seem to look anyway. It's sorta disturbing that I keep looking!

I don't _like_ AIM, much, so it's not open. It's got the bad aspects of email and phone - email gives me time to think about what I want to say, so the lack of body language and similar is ok. Phone has some body language (via voice), which compensates somewhat for the lack of time to think. Instant messanging things are real-time enough to not give me much time to think, reduce my ability to multi-task, and have no body language input.

Eh. Is ok. It just means I'm getting enough of it to be distracted by it being missing, rather than just being aware of its lack. Probably also means I ought to go back to being a bit more social than I had been lately!

*runs away*

Date: 2004-06-07 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] regyt.livejournal.com
Agreed that AIM can be an awful medium. I seem to leave it open often anyway, though I can't possibly fathom why. Once in a while it leads to good banter, and perhaps that makes the bulk of the inanity worthwhile. But oh, yes, email conversations are so much more fun. I like getting to think of what I want to say and add in parentheticals and references.

Date: 2004-06-07 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
I tend to only get on AIM if there is someone I specifically want to talk to who might be on there. And, if they are not, I tend to get right back _off_ again. Not always, but usually.

Date: 2004-06-08 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] australian-joe.livejournal.com
I likewise, which makes it amazing we overlap as much as we do. 8->

Date: 2004-06-08 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Gotta love luck. ;)

Date: 2004-06-08 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] australian-joe.livejournal.com
Yep!

As the saying goes, I'm unlucky at cards (and apparently also board games, if Puerto Rico and the various Catan games are anything to go by).

Date: 2004-06-07 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kyrene.livejournal.com
AIM means private conversations... LJ does not. I treat everything on LJ these days like I'm posting it over Route 66.

Date: 2004-06-07 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
AIM means private conversations... LJ does not.

In person means private conversations (or can). Online does not.

Personally, I don't assume anything I send online, even if encrypted, is private.

But, I do acknowledge that AIM is _more_ private than LJ tends to be.

Date: 2004-06-07 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
*nods* But then, I have email for that purpose. :)

I really don't like AIM much. And it's [livejournal.com profile] australian_joe's fault that I use it even as often as I do!

Date: 2004-06-08 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] australian-joe.livejournal.com
Ha ha ha! And I only started using first IRC then AIM because I was asked to by (former, now ex-) LDRs. I spread the corruption further!

Date: 2004-06-08 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Heh! Corruption spreading...

Re: conversational addict

Date: 2004-06-07 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com
I didn't know that brain sharing worked over such distances...

The wording on the AIM thing is even pretty much identical. Have I mentioned this to you or is this just synchronous?


I was actually rather wanting conversation late last night but I couldn't bring myself to open any IM clients and it was definitely too late to call anyone. I had things that needed to be done but instead I read a John Barnes book that's wordy enough to help some. It's scary, I was enjoying a meeting today...

Date: 2004-06-07 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
I didn't know that brain sharing worked over such distances...

You didn't?!

*is in a state of disbelief*

Have I mentioned this to you or is this just synchronous?

You may have, but that's about how I tend to express my dislike of AIM and similar, normally.

It's scary, I was enjoying a meeting today...

Yes. That _is_ scary. *fears*

Re: brain sharing

Date: 2004-06-07 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com
I think I might be more resistant to the concept of having an energetic connection with someone I haven't met rather than that of non-local mind things. I accept it because it's there but it violates some of the _rules_ that I know. More metaprogramming necessary...

The meeting bit might also be due to finally getting information that I've been asking for for 2.5 weeks...

P.S. Chatting via LJ helps. Thanks!

Date: 2004-06-07 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
might be more resistant to the concept of having an energetic connection with someone I haven't met rather than that of non-local mind things

_That_, I understand, yes. And agreed. 'Tis odd, really. :)

Date: 2004-06-07 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wurmwyd.livejournal.com
Hi There!

I'm actually much more addicted to AIM. Easier to have a conversation than e-mail, but more work-safe than phone. I'm usually on AIM while at work.

We could be like, actually having a conversation right now if you weren't AIM-phobic, actually! :P

Date: 2004-06-07 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
Easier to have a conversation than e-mail

For you, perhaps. Not for me. The signal-to-noise ratio for me when I'm on AIM is _way_ lower than over email or on the phone. I'm too distracted and have trouble doing conversation through that medium. Especially if I'm at work, but even when at home.

more work-safe than phone.

To be honest, I don't like phone much better than I like AIM. Phones make me uncomfortable, at least most of the time. Some people I can talk to over phones, but most people I cannot comfortably do so. The few times I have actual phone conversations at work, I go _outside_, or something.

if you weren't AIM-phobic

Yeah, but I have a meeting in about 5 minutes, even if I _weren't_ AIM-phobic. ;)

Re: phones

Date: 2004-06-07 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com
The few times I have actual phone conversations at work, I go _outside_, or something.

This is why for even work calls, I use my cellphone. It enables me to walk around, go outside, do what I need to do. I also find that if I'm a _little_ distracted when talking on the phone, I can talk on the phone better. People get very frustrated with me if I'm not doing something else while on the phone.

Re: phones

Date: 2004-06-07 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bridgetester.livejournal.com
I also find that if I'm a _little_ distracted when talking on the phone, I can talk on the phone better. People get very frustrated with me if I'm not doing something else while on the phone.

How does distraction help you talk on the phone better? Wandering around, I understand, but mental distraction is another thing entirely.

Who gets frustrated: the people near you or the person you're talking to? If the latter, why do they get frustrated? *curious*

Re: phones

Date: 2004-06-07 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com
This makes more sense when you find out that I have ADD. I have it mostly under control but there are still behavioural patterns that need coping mechanisms. If I'm not a _little_ distracted then I'm not receiving enough stimulus to my brain to be fully engaged in the conversation. So, either I get more interested in something else and don't pay enough attention to the phone call or I focus too much attention on the phone call and go off on weird tangents, making the phone call much longer.

For myself and many others, ADD would more properly be called Attention Focus Disorder. The problem is not a deficit of attention but difficulty in controlling the focus of that attention. Since there is not all that many nonverbal cues in a phone call, being a little distracted helps. None of this is necessary face-to-face since there is so much higher bandwidth in person.

Does this answer your questions? As you might guess, I've thought about this a little.

Date: 2004-06-07 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
if I'm a _little_ distracted when talking on the phone, I can talk on the phone better.

Ditto. If I'm doing something other than just being on the phone, I'm much more comfortable with being on the phone.

Not sure if it's the same, but it's absolutely similar.

Date: 2004-06-07 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] echospiralheart.livejournal.com
poke. Poke-poke.

*giggle*

*elfish laugh*

*giggle*

I don't have time for on line good conversation right now as work is busy, but wanted to poke.

*giggle*

Date: 2004-06-07 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com
*chuckle* I don't have time, either - is part of why email is good. But, hi!

*pokes you back*

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