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wispfox ([personal profile] wispfox) wrote2004-11-09 03:09 pm

[brains, annoyance] wording things

I hate it when the only thing I can say is that [specific thing] feels off, somehow, and not why.

Especially when I've not been able to find words for why no matter how often I try.

Damn low-level nonverbal brain!

(usually, this is stuff which is specific to individual people, and usually relates to interaction with individual people. But it's annoying not being able to explain _why_!)

Re: wording

[identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand the frustration. I've actually been getting better at wording things until very recently (about 3 weeks ago) and now I'm having lots of problems again. Very annoying. Good luck.

Re: wording

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods* Well, this particular thing isn't a new one. Sometimes I just can't get words beyond 'because it's weird'.

But I have _also_ been less coherent than normal of late!

Re: wording

[identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
There have been days for me where it feels like I was picked up out of the universe, rotated about 15° and put back in. Everything is just _that_ much off. Unfortunately, this doesn't really say anything about how to cope with it or how to prevent it, so it's not the most useful. But at times, it's the best I can do.

Re: wording

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm. Universe of rotation.

Wow, my sense-making is really just not working today.

On the plus side, it's amusing what happens to the meaning of things when my words get all out of order!

(I do follow, I'm just not making any sense)

Re: wording

[identity profile] wolfieboy.livejournal.com 2004-11-14 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
There have been many times when I just don't bother with trying to make sense and just get the feel of what it is that being communicated even when I'm just talking to myself.

[identity profile] chillguru.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
i too have really been struggling with explaining my thoughts and desires in a way that makes sense to my intended audience. this is where telepathy would be really handy

#8^D~

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-09 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh!

It's worse than making (or not making) sense. It's that I can't find words at _all_. Ok, well, beyond 'because it feels odd' or weird or off or whatever.

*shrug* This isn't new, mind - I just ran into yet another example of it, is all.

[identity profile] ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 11:10 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Certain things, I don't *try* to think in words. I have sensations, like, the shape I'm picturing feels wrong.
Vaguely synaesthetic,even.

Sometimes I've discovered a new set of ideas which have labels for the funny-feeling shapes,and that's nifty.

Oft-times I've found (don't forget I'm nearly geriatric) that these things come clear if I leave them to brew properly, like mead or ale.

Just rabbitting, on don't mind me :-/

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm. Rabbitting. Sounds tiring.

Also...

Certain things, I don't *try* to think in words. I have sensations, like, the shape I'm picturing feels wrong. Vaguely synaesthetic, even.

YES. But it's rather difficult to explain that to anyone else and have it make sense. Much as people accept it when I do it, I dislike saying that something feels wrong (or weird, or whatever) and not _why_.

New ideas and labels: always fun, yes. And it's nice when other people put into words things that either I gave up on wording, or I didn't know I needed to word!

Oft-times I've found (don't forget I'm nearly geriatric) that these things come clear if I leave them to brew properly, like mead or ale.

brewing: Yes. But this particular [something] has been brewing with no why for over a year. I don't expect to get a why out of it at this rate, as there has been _no_ progress. *shrug*

geriatric: You realize that I had to go look at your user info page due to that comment, right? :) Nearly geriatric, I disagree (although, I'm not sure I know what defines that state). More experience than me, though, yes. Yay, experience!

Then again, most of the people I know/am friends with are older than I. I expect this, and therefore get confused by my friends who are _younger_ than I am.

Ok, I've lost my point, if I had one. I go now!

[identity profile] ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com 2004-11-11 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
'nearly geriatric' was Ozan self-mockery :-)

When something feels wrong to me, but I don't know why, I say exactly that.

People who know me well know I'm wierd, however!

Best of luck discovering what it is that has been brewing for a year and more.

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-11 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
self-mockery: Ah. :) I'm fairly unlikely to be good at picking up on that, as I tend to be poor at picking up on people teasing each other (which is similar enough, and fairly common here). Mostly FYI. :)

I also say as much when things feel wrong, but I prefer to be able to explain _why_, if I can. *shrug*

[identity profile] ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com 2004-11-12 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
It's is to tell when I'm foing self-mockery in the flesh, as I caper or writhe.

It owuld be nice to be able to expain stuff, yeah.
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[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-12 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! You caper? For some reason this fills me with much glee. :)

[identity profile] ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com 2004-11-12 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
:-)

A gleeful [Unknown site tag] is a Good Thing!

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-16 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm amused to note that every time I saw the comment notification for this comment in my mailbox, it sparked a huge grin.

Yes. :)

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-11-10 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah! Bad italics. Hopefully it makes sense, because I'm not coherent enough to fix it...

[identity profile] ruth-lawrence.livejournal.com 2004-11-11 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
'Sok!