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wispfox ([personal profile] wispfox) wrote2004-05-25 11:13 am

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Oops, I missed a couple links. The fisrt one is even one I read the original of! Bad me!

[livejournal.com profile] tacit is looking for "contributions of original fiction, nonfiction, art, and photography, with an edgy, BDSM/psycho-sexual/cyberpunk feel". Pass it on!

And, as linked by [livejournal.com profile] ladytabitha, [livejournal.com profile] yuki_onna explains how her "childfree" is totally different from, say, [livejournal.com profile] childfree.

*shakes head* Methinks I'm glad I'm confident enough in my preference for letting _other_ people have children to never have wanted to read [livejournal.com profile] childfree. Yikes. Do none of those people have friends with children? I mean, admittedly, I have some amount of avoidance of small children, but that's because they take _way_ more of my energy than most things do.

[identity profile] catya.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah. someone dropped "childfree" as a self-description in conversation the other day and got quite the reaction out of me.

nasty nasty people.

[identity profile] catya.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
(sie meant it in the "not going to have kids" sense, which is of course fine - just that i now have all sorts of nastiness assoaicted with "childfree")

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I figured that was what you meant. Scary, scary people...
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[personal profile] geekchick 2004-05-25 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I have "childfree" listed as one of my interests because I don't want or intend to ever have kids, not because I hate children. I find calling children "crotch-droppings" incredibly offensive. It's unfortunate that the shrill, child-hating, nasty-name-calling contingent (I've ranted about them often) are the first thing people tend to think about when they hear "childfree". I read alt.support.childfree for about a week before I couldn't take it anymore, and quickly decided that [livejournal.com profile] childfree wasn't a good place for me either.

[identity profile] catya.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah - there needs to be a good word for people who choose not to have kids but aren't assholes about it :)
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[personal profile] geekchick 2004-05-25 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
BTW, I figured you meant the vitriol-spewing folks, I just wanted to chime in as a non-kid-hating childfree type.

[identity profile] brynndragon.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't stand little kids. Growing up in a daycare home, never having toys to oneself and lacking the simple comfort of not having one's blankie thrown up upon by kidlings that aren't even related to you can do that to a person. I also have gained an understanding of how life-changing having kids would be - my dad gave up his motorcycle when I was born and I wouldn't want to have to make that kind of choice. Furthermore, I consider kidlings to be small human beings, and I don't want to take the responsibility of caring for another person, especially if I know that person doesn't have the brain-shaping experiences to know even the simpliest bad-vs-good issues. I suspect this last arguement would be extremely counter to the "childfree" movement.

I vote that those of us who aren't bigots call ourselves childless. Unless someone can come up with a better term for people who don't have kids, don't want kids, but don't mind if you have kids?

[identity profile] wispfox.livejournal.com 2004-05-25 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm accustomed to people using 'childless' in a manner implying that they want, but are unable to have, children. So that may not work.

I don't tend to use a word at all, myself. I don't want them, I should never have them, and I'm perfectly fine to be around children in small doses. Those who need to know this, know. *shrug*

[identity profile] water-childe.livejournal.com 2004-05-26 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Baby Null? Spawnless?