I only went to psinging once or twice, but there was some overlap with that group and Meg Muckenhoupt's Thursday Dinner Group, which I went to more often. This was about 8 years ago though!

Here (http://www.bramboroson.com/cty_gunther_foil.jpg) you can see me (bearded) and Gunther (holding a foil) at age 15.

Thanks for the tip on his sweetie!